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LM61460-Q1: design check

Part Number: LM61460-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM61460

Hello Expert

Please support to check below design and give your comments.

Input voltage range: 9-16V

Output voltage range:2-8V, current configure:5V

Output current: max. 5A

fsw=400KHz

Output voltage ripple: 3%

load transient range: 5A to 0.5A

Transient response voltage change: 5%

Q1: consider the cost saving, i choose one Electrolytic capacitor 100uF, esr=35mR, ripple current=1.7A,  with 1*10uF and 1*4.7uF, can you check it's OK or not->especially for 100uF EC?

Q2: choose one 10uF with 2*220nF at input pin, it's OK or not?

Q3: Customer want to adjust the output voltage, do you have good solution for current BUCK LM61460?

  • Add note: this buck is used for control external LED, then need to consider the short circuit to power supply and GND testing. also iso7637-3a/3b/ESD

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  • Please see my comments and questions:

    Output voltage range:2-8V, current configure:5V

    How are they planning to implement this:

    1. Will a design have a fixed output voltage (between 2 and 8V) or do they need adjustable output voltage? 

    You said:

    Q1: consider the cost saving, i choose one Electrolytic capacitor 100uF, esr=35mR, ripple current=1.7A,  with 1*10uF and 1*4.7uF, can you check it's OK or not->especially for 100uF EC?

    Q2: choose one 10uF with 2*220nF at input pin, it's OK or not?

    Schematic Review:

    1. Ensure the voltage ratings of the input capacitors are appropriate. (Rated Voltage > Abs max voltage on the input rail - thumb rule is to use atleast 50V rated caps for 12V automotive systems). 

    2. Ensure CVcc and CBoot are high quality ceramic caps (Eg: X7R) for good thermal stability. Ensure proper voltage rating. 

    3. Inductor - Ensure the Saturation current and DC Current rating of the Inductor > ~6.3A (for a 5A design). 

    4. The output capacitor values seem okay. However, since this is an adjustable output implementation - I would recommend:

    a. Have a provision for feedforward cap and resistor. 

    b. Check the load transient and bode plot at all output voltages to ensure proper operation across different operating conditions. 

    You said:

    Q3: Customer want to adjust the output voltage, do you have good solution for current BUCK LM61460?

    Look at this app note: https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slyt777/slyt777.pdf

    Add note: this buck is used for control external LED, then need to consider the short circuit to power supply and GND testing. also iso7637-3a/3b/ESD

    These are system level tests and not device specific. You will have to implement external protection if you see the device abs max ratings getting violated. 

  • 1. Will a design have a fixed output voltage (between 2 and 8V) or do they need adjustable output voltage? 

    WP: need adjustable output voltage. current we choose LM61460 is adjustable output, and also we want to use external DAC/PWM to configure the output voltage via SW.

  • Got it!

    Please refer to the design resources and the comments I shared in my previous reply. 

  • I want to double confirm with you:

    1)  Input capacitor use 1*10uF and 2*220nF

    2) Output capacitor use 1*100uF Electrolytic Capacitor and 1*10uF and 1*4.7uF.

    3) FB consider add CFF=22pF and RFF=1K and 

    4) inductor use 6.8uH, Saturation current is 9A

  • 1)  Input capacitor use 1*10uF and 2*220nF

    Looks good! Ensure the correct voltage rating as I had mentioned. 

    2) Output capacitor use 1*100uF Electrolytic Capacitor and 1*10uF and 1*4.7uF.

    Again - looks good - however, since this is an adjustable output - check the performance on the board (especially at the max and min Vout). 

    3) FB consider add CFF=22pF and RFF=1K and 

    Keep provision for these on your board. If your loop response is good enough without these - you can keep these DNP. Otherwise, you can check the performance with the Cff and Rff. 

    4) inductor use 6.8uH, Saturation current is 9A